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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: Help!

Another thought - did you warm down after every session? If you don't do this you MAY be okay for a little while but you really have to do this after every single session to ensure the muscles around your vocal cords return to their natural size. (if I'm wrong there, someone feel free to correct me!)

In addition to this, you can wake up some days and just not sound as good as you did the day before. This happens and it can be down to many factors (dehydration, lack of warmup, poor support, allergies etc).

Also, I'm curious, what songs do you sing that require that kind of high note? I can only think of Bohemian Rhapsody just before the "rock-out" section.

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I totally agree with HuskyHarris. I used to ignore warm downs, but since incorporating them in the past 6 months I can't go without them, they are fantastic. I practice my vocal routines everyday, but TWICE a week I do really INTENSE practices, where I'll go through Breaking the Chains program, which is 2 cd's, and I"ll do EVERY EXERCISE back to back, which is over an hour. I'll then do about 15 mins of warm down, things like lip bubbles, eee's, zeeee's on scales, and keep them light and let them go in falsetto, my voice feels amazing after this. it repairs me so fast that i'm able to go into recording and what was a workout has actually become a WARMUP for recording.

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Thanks for the suggestions guys,

I have been pretty lazy in properly warming up and cooling down but I never used to at all and I was always fine. I guess maybe it has just caught up with me? Also I just moved to a new area a couple months ago and this is my first summer here so I'm thinking I might have allergies here that I have never had before. On days I remember to take some claritin in the morning my voice is noticeably better by the time I get off work and sing in my car on the drive home. I will start concentrating more on cooling down and let you know if the condition improves.

HuskyHarris, I like signing a lot of Dream Theater, for example "Under a Glass Moon" and "Voices" both go up to E6 a couple times.

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It can be all too easy to skip warming up and warming down, but it is incredibly important! I know a girl who skipped it all the time too as she "could sing without needing to warm up" and she really struggles now...

Ahh fair play!

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E6? Are you sure? I don't know the songs but that's soprano range if C4 is the middle C :)

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Yes, they are the first E above the staff, 1318.51 Hz. Look up the song on youtube and you will understand.

As a side note I think all my problems were due to spring allergies. Now that the pollen has cleared up and I've gotten into a daily antihistamine regimen my range has returned.

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I just listened to Voices and there was no E6. Even C6 would be an insanely high note. I don't think I have ever heard an E6 sang in other than whistle voice. Not saying it cannot be done but it's rare! IMHO the chorus goes tops at E5. A very strong E5, btw.

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Sorry I guess I was mistaken, you are right its an E5. The source I was using for note names was incorrect.

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Don't feel bad - E5 is a respectable high note. Just keep training!

Practice, Practice, Practice!!



Tim

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Don't feel bad - E5 is a respectable high note.


Indeed it is. I know that I can't sing one ;)

Ps. notebooks often have wrong octaves or even key. This is done to make notation look more compact I heard.