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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: Controlled mouth, controlled support?

Maybe you are tensing a lot more by consciously thinking of opening your mouth? Try the test where you go left-right with your head while singing, if it breaks, you're using way more tension than necessary.

Re: Controlled mouth, controlled support?

phil
how loud are you trying to keep your voice as you go through your break? let your voice go quiter and less full on, it should be easier to slide past the break. over time, the power will build itself, don't push the voice let it do what it wants, don't worry if it sounds falsettoish


Thanks for your reply!

I think my voice gets just little louder than my speaking voice. I found that if I dont make it a bit louder then I dont find the resonance and the sound gets too soft kinda "30 stm - 100 suns" feel to it.

I used to sing really soft around my break but then I had a gig and I was in deep s*** hahaha. I only knew how to sing soft and there was no resonace memory. Now I just try to find resonance spots even if I am little louder. I stop when it feels unconfortable. I can hear the my Adams apple rising and making the voice sound narrow, but I stil feel that this might be the best way to train.

Its really hard to say where my voice wants to go freely. When I let it go too freely, it just goes to falsetto couse i forget the down support.

Re: Controlled mouth, controlled support?

how do you know that its falsetto and not just a really weak full voice? the reason i say this is beacuse i held myself back from progress for so long by thinking i was in falsetto when i actually wasn't. so i kept pulling up my chest sound which makes it impossible to hit the higher notes since i wasn't zipping. i ended up just letting my voice go where it wanted, even though it sounded like falsetto. over time with lots of Transcending tone and siren work and brett manning exercises what used to sound falsettoish is now getting close to full voice sound. maybe this might help you, maybe not

i've said this before, but 4 programs that i think are fantastic are:

jaime venderas raise your voice
brett mannings singing success
brett mannings mastering mix
kevin richards breaking the chains

brett mannings stuff has sorted out my range and bridging quite well, and jaime and kevin richards stuff is helping me build the power.