THE VOICE CONNECTION
SOUND OFF

Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: What Singing Success says about breathing technique

Thanks to bad singing habits I did RYV all wrong and then SS just made it worse! I was tensing my throat, my jaw, and everything way too much. So, it is important for me to learn how to support? absolutely, because it prevents the tension in my face, jaw and neck. Moral of the story?, an advice pretending to universalize singers needs is definitely wrong!

Re: What Singing Success says about breathing technique

Thanks Phil, that is awesome to hear you've had those results with SS and RYV combined.

"you'll develop a soft ability which is useful for rnb and soul etc."
Good!

"So now i'm getting full voiced awesome sounds but witht he freedom i was getting from SLS!"
Sounds even better.

"i think the problem with support is that it pushes your voice to skip the zipping"
I must be zipping because I can reach very high notes but I do strain and push way too much, not always though. Usually I strain from where chest register ends and cords start zipping up, so again it's the most common thing ever. I'm expecting that SS exercises will help me clear this up now and tap into that easy and effortless singing through my whole range.

Anyway thanks for your post, it was helpful.

Re: What Singing Success says about breathing technique

yeah man. for me, and i can only speak for myself: my conclusion is that i need to learn to sing softly and connected throughought my range BEFORE adding support and intensity. this is what SLS is doing, then RYV is my "make it sound awesome" tool.

my current routine is going through the singing success stuff (i advance through the cd's when i feel i can do the exercises really well)
then at the end i do the RYV exercises, then sing until i run out of time.