To be more specific, take AIC's Man In the Box. The first note of the chorus, he's hitting a Bb4, but it still has that growl to it? I know Layne was prob screaming it at the top of his lungs, but their new guy does it to and makes it look like childsplay...ie, no veins about to explode in his neck..

Hi man!

Awesome to hear about your progress!
I'm currently working with the same sound, but can't really get it to work for me.


I started this thread earlier about it, hoping to get some advice:
http://pub11.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=879185519&frmid=26&msgid=1071797&cmd=show

It would help me a lot of you maybe could try to explain your progress, and how you finally got that low grit sound!

How did you first start out? And was there any specific sound that made you find the placement easier?

Thanks man!

Hey man,

Idk, it's kind of hard to describe..it just clicked one day. What worked for me was a combo of two things, one being that noise you make when you clear your throat, the "a-hem" sound. Just try to to it soft and light...if that makes any sense. Try to push the sound from your stomach without grunting. That helped me with the sound.

As far as placement, that feeling should be right in your soft palette. If it's lower in the throat, it's wrong. You know the sound you make when you "hock a loogie". Try that, but again push with your stomach and try to keep your throat open. If it helps, visualize biting into an apple and you should feel the sensation right in your soft palette.

After you're able to do that, start adding in an actual note. I am by no means a teacher, so take what I said with a grain of salt, this is just what helped me. Hope this was some kind of help!

-D

I just tried what you suggested and it worked and sounded perfect! I've also heard some other people describe it this way. I was always looking for a clean sound so I never tried it but I decided to give it a go here and it worked.

I normally practice alot in head voice so I did the sound at a note somewhere in the upper 4th/low 5th range. It works just the same as low but you want to do that clearing throat sound with a falsetto or head voice and slightly press into it from the stomach , back and sides, all the way down from below the waist too.

Nice, glad my advice actually helped! So you did it in the upper 4th/5th octave while still keeping that same sensation? I gotta try this now, if I do it up there, it ends up sounding like a hair metal scream, lol

Yeah! awesome that's the kind of scream I'd go for, where it sounds so free and soaring. Still zeroing in on getting it though, it's nowhere near perfect, especially since I still sing mostly cleanly.