I started chiro treatment last week because of back and neck pain I've been experiencing for the last year and recent whiplash :( It turns out my neck is straight as opposed to slightly curbed and I have other minor misalignments along my spine. The chiro said that my neck problems might have started at least 10-15 years ago; I've already started to have bone degeneration (arthritis) which cannot be reversed and sucks big time... But for the rest, most of my problems can be reversed fortunately... Anyway, I've just had 3 adjustments so far and I'm already feeling better but I've noticed something different and unexpected with my voice...

I've been pretty happy with my voice for the last few years except sometimes I feel like my vibrato has a tendency to be a tiny bit to slow if I'm not completely relaxed. Now, I don't know if it's just a coincidence but it seems to me that it's back to the speed it was at when I was a teenager :)) Isn't it amazing how everything in the body is interconnected and can affect the voice? What a bonus!

Has anybody else ever had a similar experience?

Oh, I wrote that!!! Didn't realize the signature was wrong...

oiselle

first off, congratulations on having a positive experience. having positive experiences motivates you to have more obviously hahah. now, i will tell you arthritis and bone degeneration CAN be reversed, as can all "dis-ease"(es), its myth and conspiracy to say otherwise. anyone who disagrees with that has not tried the things i've tried to the same extent, and is just basing their opinions on a BELIEF SYSTEM.

and your point on everything being interconnected is so relevant to what i'm about to say.


now first off this is all just my opinion, and i'm only saying that beacuse i HAVE TO.

arthritis: i'm going to give you a few answers but bear in mind that like you said, everything is interconnected, so the culmination of all these ideas will overcome the problem

- the biggest thing that will probably get rid of your problem and many other problems people experience is fasting. anyone who tells you fasting is dangerous has never done it before. it is ridiculous to think that the body can just keep eating non-stop from birth to death. the whole thing with fasting is that after several days of non-eating, the body changes its fuel source and starts eating itself, BUT IT ONLY STARTS EATING PLAQUE AND WASTE (this is how fasting can cure things like cancers/tumors), once it runs out of bad things to eat, it will THEN eat vital organs and muscle (you can go longer than a month before it will start eating vital stuff so don't stress about it). if i was in your situation i would fast for 21 days.

now people who think fasting is bull**** have never done it so are basing it on a belief system, but also their main thing is that they say "plaque doesn't exist"....well it does. people are annoyed at hearing me say "fast" when they go "oh my dad has this heart problem". well my friend's dad who did have a heart problem, had surgery and he told me the amount of plaque that came out of the tube...jesus. now you can pay to have "modern medicine" cut holes in you and drain you out, or you can SAVE TWO WEEKS OF GROCERY MONEY, TIME FROM NOT PREPARING FOOD, and fast and get an even better result than surgery, because you will be cleaning your body the way it was designed to be. nature has billions of years of "research" backing it up. we only have several hundred years understanding of science. we know over 1,000 parts that make up a stick of celery, and there's estimated about another 15,000 elements we DONT KNOW of that make the rest of it. i'm not going to go into that, basically telling you that we should put more trust in nature's mechanisms rather than our research (which is riddled with agendas which makes it even harder to find good answers)

on your fast you may develop symptoms of a cold on a fast because the body is using waste material as its fuel source. the first 3-4 days will be difficult as you crave food, but once the body switches fuel sources it will be "eating" the waste, so you won't get those same hunger cravings. and all they are is cravings, because you will notice that hunger doesn't build up over each day on a fast. the next day you will feel like you've eaten the previous day.

DROP ALL MEDICATION NOW. medication stops SYMPTOMS. symptoms are a healing mechanism from the body. numbing your symtpoms is like cutting the cord in your car that tells you you have no fuel left. you'll never know when you run out! if you are silencing your pains all the time, you won't take any action to remedy them. plus anything unnatural is waste to the body and you are only clogging it up more and pushing healing time back.

fasting means, NO FOOD. nothing SOLID. drink tons of water to help the cleaning process. squeeze a lemon into some hot water add raw honey and drink that, lemons are good at aiding the cleanse.

have raw salt on your fast, the more water you drink the more salt you need to have, anyone who tells you salt is bad is an idiot. i'm talking real salt here, not powdered cocain looking crap you get from the shops.

if you can get your hands on raw unpasteurised unhomogenised milk, raw straight from the cow milk, then that's definately something you should be drinking for the rest of your life.

everything is interconnected once again haha, so the cause of bone degeneration is a culmination of different problems and this comes down to underuse of joints, a bad diet (everyone thinks their diet is good)

this means no SUGAR. replace it with raw honey. have as much honey as you want. eliminate sugar. raw sugar is okay but its hard to be certain it isn't processed junk so its safer to stick with raw honey. this basically cuts out everything artificial when i say no sugar. look at ingredients on the stuff you buy anything with weird numbers or un-natural ingredients or sugar don't buy. most breads you will find are like a science experiment.

only eat nature's foods. the body treats anything unnatural as WASTE. you can easily see this when you throw a plastic bag into soil and watch how it will take years for it to break down. hell try it with mcdonald's chips! throw an apple and its instantly recognized and can be broken down easily. when you are constantly eating things that are hard to break down it builds up plaque in the body which causes disease. we are essentially made up of tubes, plaque will clog tubes and you'll get disease. disease isn't some magical force that mysteriously falls down and claims people randomly like some people will have you believe.

dead animals or as people call it: "meat". less dead corpses is best, or better: none. dead corpses rot after around 72 hrs. if you can't poo it out then its going to rot inside you and cause disease down the track. and i can probably guarantee that if you are eating meat everyday, you are NOT eliminating it within 72 hrs. on a fast you will be amazed at how you are still going to the toilet days onwards after having no food! this is waste trapped up in the colon from years ago. you will see! when your colon is trapped like this, nutrients from good natural foods are blocked and cant be used properly. i literally watched my black half-grown wisdom teeth go whiter and fully come through on a 7 day fast.

so even if you are on a good diet, you could be blocking the gains which is why fasting is probably the best thing for you to do. fasting is REQUIRED for perfect health, theres no way around it! people are wiling to change diets but not willing to fast! you must!

there are 4 myths you need to watch out for, which are touted by groups with money making agendas:

1. disease is a "mystery"
2. fat is bad
3. salt is bad
4. sunlight is bad

if you follow those 4 rules you will become the pharmaceutical industry's best customer!


ME: everything i have talked to you about here is what i've proven to myself by DOING. not just **** i read and repeated.

when i first changed my diet to whole natural foods i was still catching colds and getting sick. when i fasted, that change everything. now my body is not clooged up and can reap the benefits of the foods i eat. I don't get sick anymore. EVER.

my diet has no meat (yet i am stronger than i was "oh no! what about PROTEIN!!!" they say), high fat (natural fats: coconut, full cream milk, lots of butter), and lots of fruit and vegetables.

everyone knows "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" but who actually REALLY has AN APPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY??? take my advice: DO IT. buy heaps of fruit, that is now your new junk food. i have a high fat high "sugar" (lots of fruit) diet yet i am not fat hahahah.


exercising is your friend:
- exercising brings more blood flow, which carries nutrients into the joints and removes waste products, exercising is your friend. you want to do exercises that put your joints through a full range of motion. exercises that stretch and strengthen are your friend here. if you are getting pain, slow down or stop, and take it easy, ease into it. over time you will be able to do more. consistency is key with everything

lastly....FAST! i'm sure it will fix your problem, but if for some reason it didn't (???) then you'd be far healthier than you were anyway.

Hi everyone,

I am sure Phil has several valid points, and though I have to agree that modern medicine is not perfect and that diet has a singifificant role in health, and do not want to be critical of either Phil or his beliefs, I hope it will be ok for me to make a small suggestion or two.

If readers are going to take his advice and stop all their medications, it would be wise to check their physician before they do. Suddenly stoping some medications can be life threatening, and some are needed for life and cannot be stopped. For example suddenly stoping long term corticosteroid thearapy can be dangerous to ones health. And both diabetics that are insulin dependent and people with certain cardiac arrhythmias may risk death by stoping their medications. Similarly people with certain medical conditions may risk serious illness by fasting for many reasons. For example, diabetics may need to adjust insulin or oral medications if they are fasting and fasting can change the degree of anticoagulation for people taking a blood thinner called coumadin. Also, though exercise is, as Phil has suggested, a powerful way to improve heath, there are some medical conditions that make it dangerous too, so it might be wise to check with your doctor before starting an exercise program particularly if you know you have health problems. The good news on the exercise part is that your doctor will, in most(but not all) circumstances think it is a good idea.


Anyway, I mean no offense to Phil or anyone else, and hope everyone remains healthy and keeps singing.

Doug

Hmm, I'm sorry Phil but I believe that your response is looking a little bit crackpot and by doing all that stuff I think you're being a little bit hypocritical on the belief system thing. Personal experience (i.e. a sample size of one) is not something that I would use as the basis for telling people to completely change their whole way of life.

Saying research is pretty much BS is a very blind way of doing things and it sounds like someone has been reading too many self help books, scientology manuals or autobiographies of David Icke. Usually a fan of your contributions but I think that rant was particularly off.

There's a site dedicated to people who do things like fasting and other miraculous(ly silly thing) to avoid sickness and deny that disease exists and it shows you all the ways they died. This is up there with AIDS and Cancer denial in my books. I'm not gonna rant up too much though but really don't agree with most of what you wrote there, mate.

Woah! I didn't wish to start something like that guys!!! Thanks Phil for your suggestions although I think a 21 day fast on water, salt and honey is too extreme.

My chiro is fixing my neck right now and the rest of my vertebrae. I already feel the results. I don't have any arthritis pain yet and what I felt in my back and neck is from the misalignment so hopefully the arthritis won't act out for a while. He also set the first discs in my neck haven't separated before birth so I have one bone instead of two there which might contribute to the tension in my neck. That too is irreversible but the realignment will help redistributing how the weight of my head is supported. I've always had great posture so I'm not sure how it all started... That was the shocking part for me...

I consider myself very healthy. My diet is excellent. I eat whole food and little sugar. No coffee or chocolate. NO processed food. No prescription drugs (or drugs). I exercise. I'm slim. I do have a day job to keep so fasting on water wouldn't be appropriate for more than 3days (which I've done before on an apple only fast) unless I plan on fainting in front of my grade 1/2 students. It would be a great idea to have a short fast again.

A friend told me that I can create space through specific exercises for the bones where the degeneration has started to bring blood flow and encourage regeneration. So I'm going to try that for sure.

I am aware everything I say is my opinion. So if you disagree that's fine. However, don't think that will stop me from listing what has positively affected my life and many others.

Anything that you commit as truth, before you have actually tested out for YOURSELF is a belief system. This is the problem with the catch phrase "scientifically proven". People read a few things and if it is made up of mundane "scientific sounding" words they pass it off as "peer-reviewed, sound research" and commit it as truth, THEN talk about it to other people like they KNOW IT AS TRUTH. When doing this, you are assuming all is well behind the research and that there are no agendas or errors of any kind. If you think the scientific community is black and white you are wrong. Any "evidence" of something you think you know, I bet I can find many other opposing views with equal amounts of evidence to "back them up". Being aware of this, then what do you believe? This is why you must test out everything you can, if you can't feasibly test something out then don't jump to a conclusion on it. I am merely sharing with you what has positively changed my life, my wife's, and many people I know. People who think I'm "off" have less health than me. always. I will only take advice from people that have something I want to develop. For example, if I want health, I will ask someone who HAS HEALTH. A walking textbook of theory is not good enough.

and by the way, there are no "side effects" in medication, there are only EFFECTS!

and doug "Saying research is pretty much BS is a very blind way of doing things"

What I am doing is the application of theory and information into KNOWLEDGE. This basically means, research and try things and note the difference. The reason why I have said a lot of stuff is BS is because i've APPLIED the information. It is not good enough to just read things and then go "well it's 'peer-reviewed'". there are many conflicting studies, to think that there isn't is clearly proof that you are only looking in one direction.

you then go on:
"and it sounds like someone has been reading too many self help books, scientology manuals or autobiographies of David Icke. Usually a fan of your contributions but I think that rant was particularly off."

my opinions are contrary to that of yours. that does not make my knowledge incorrect or baseless as you imply. i didn't get my information from those sources, but if i had, it wouldn't matter so long as the results were sound.

you also think your research on fasting stumps my tried and tested proof of doing and knowing it. results are in the pudding.

This is not a shot at you guys for "not agreeing", I am fine with that and didn't expect it, but if I feel I have an answer for something I am **** sure gonna post it, especially when its something I KNOW.

Hi Phil,

FYI there are two Dougs posting to this thread. I assume the "doug" you addressed in your last post is Doug Skene.

Though perhaps I am mistaken. Please let me know if I am.

Doug

So you know fasting cures cancer eh? And this is your opinion? Glad you are not a Doctor, you would have many dead patient. Plus if it were the case that fasting could cure cancer, most people would survive cancer. Many people who have cancer can barely eat as it is. Give your head a shake.

Sorry Oiselle, I know you wanted to keep this thread positive.

alright, we all get it! Fasting may have its positive but taken to the extreme might have negatives too. I think I'm going to lock my own thread now since it's taken quite an unexpected turn here ;)

I still appreciate your input Phil and it reminded me that I should have mini-fasts more often. thanks!

Val