THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: effortless high notes!

"I started into RYV by injuring my throat and thinking I had nodules. Luckily I didn't."

I thought so too when I abused my voice in the beginning! And that was like four months ago, tons of improvement after that :)

Last saturday on a gig I sang "Hold the line" by Toto (and many other songs too, Eagles, Foo fighters, Commodores) and man it was awesome! I used grit too quite a lot, it just came naturally. I sang that high B quite many times on that gig :)

I've been playing with this same band quite many gigs since June and they have witnessed my improvement as a singer, they all commented about it after the gig. I'm pretty happy myself but this is just a great beginning!

Re: effortless high notes!

Guys I just recorded some gn'r again without and with grit.

without grit: http://maihinnousu.net/s/9699
with grit: http://maihinnousu.net/s/9700

Lol my grit sounds quite a lot like Axl. I don't know if I like that sound too much but I'm happy to be able to do that! Although it's not that good, my throat dries up fast while doing that and it feels a bit in the throat. And it sounds very thin and quite pushy. But I like the sound without the grit :) It feels easy to do (but not always if I feel "off").

By the way I made up an exercise myself. I was struggling with some song, I can't remember which, and I started to do this:

http://maihinnousu.net/s/9669

Something clicked right away, because immediately I could hit my whole range again. Kind of just jumping through some notes in every part of my vocal range.

It's funny that on some songs and some exercises I can just sing over 3 octaves easily and in some songs or some days my vocal range just get's cut in half and I lose touch with the upper range. Or it can happen during a gig, at first I sing fine and happily and then as the gig goes on (I propably push too much and all that) I lose touch and my voice get's tired and I can't hit the high notes anymore. Propably some old habits and bad technique there.. I know some singers who never have bad days, they never lose their voices and they either can always hit a note or they can't at all, there is no IF :D I want to get there!

Sooo any tips with the grit? Or hitting the high notes every time and not just some days and some gigs?