do you have a clip of you making the sound? that would be helpful

i found learning grit by doing it badly. i did it for a year hurting my throat, then I learned to use proper support and it stopped hurting, i still get a little irritating especially if i get lazy on singing and miss a few workouts, but overall fine.

i was learning by imitating christian bale's batman begins character. just talk normally but add rasp to it. it may hurt a little bit but you wont' screw your voice over at this light intensity, i know because i was in a band before i knew technique and was shouting my head off, i coughed up blood at one point (throat was always killing me next few days) i that was dangerous what i was doing but i feel doing it wrongly to develop your sound is okay as long as you aren't pushing too hard. you'll know when your pushing your voice too much.

i feel (and i may very well be wrong in this) that sometimes learning through it hurting a bit will "develop" the sound more. basically i spent a year just shouting/belting whatever you call it. bad technique but it developed a "sound" for me. i don't recommend pushing your voice until it destroys itself which i was close to but a mild pushing of intensity is okay in my opinion the voice is stronger than you think. bascially the only technique i knew at thte time was squeeze the abs to get more power. i was imitating early metallica a lot.

swelling the volume to make it loud ie. shouting was what i was doing for a long time. until i learned correct support which took the pain off the voice.

you mentioned it didn't "sound right" to you, that means it wasn't right. the goal is to create something that sounds GOOD TO YOU, and i say this a lot but i know how easy it is to forget this when you get caught up in technical development.

forget technique find what sounds good, when you find it, then try working technique to recreate that same sound without pain/strain. too many people are overly scared of the pain/strain when it comes to singing, they reckon if theres any degree of it you should stop. but lots of singers have developed brilliant sounds by pushing their voice, you just have to know how much to push, let your intuition guide you. Only try this in practice as you can stop when you want, in gigs you will be forced to continue which i was, which is when i was causing damage to my voice because halfway thorugh a song i'd feel "okay this is enough" but i'd have to continue for the sake of the song. THAT is bad, but in practice try dveloping your sound and when you feel okay my voice is tired/hurting now stop.

now rememberi am no vocal expert these are just my opinions, you sound like you having a lot of trouble i'm tryin to just lay out ideas so you have more things to pick from. but seriously try sending us a sample. even if it's just a clip of you makin different noises and sounds ad you commenting like "okay now i'm going to make a ... sound" or whatever

just to ask, are you practicing SINGING much? i mean just turning on a song and singing to it? i don't know your backgroudn at all, are you just beginning, just starting exercises or what.

That helps a lot actually. The way I was doing it before, there was no pain at all with or without support. But what I've been practicing lately, I've been able to do better sounding grit, but I have to add loads of support or it'll start to hurt.

I've been practicing actual singing a lot more lately than I used to. I've gotten to the point where I can sing things in the lower part of my range and have them sound not too terrible. Unfortunatly, I don't have many bands that don't have a crazy vocalist. So I practice mostly ballad-style songs like "The Silent Man" by Dream Theater.

I'll work on getting a clip up this week of some stuff i've been working on.

work on practicing singing more than anything so you can develop your "sound" that you can go "YES that's the style i want".

and yeah you will need to add "loads of support" especially on high notes, the more skill you develop the more you'll be able to back off support without sacrificing the sound quality.

remember it's all about the sound quality, these techniques are here to help you improve the quality and do it in a safe manner without damaging yourself. but if your sound quality isn't there it doesn't matter if it's safe because no one will want to hear you! always ask yourself "does this sound good? would i want to buy this? is this the feel/style/ i'm looking for?" you can quickly become your own teacher this way, because your answer will bring about the necessary adjustments. for me, lately i've been practicing a **** load of scales and stuff, and i feel i've lost a degree of my "rawness" i had with my sound a few months ago, so now i'm gonna just forget about the scales and work on singing, so i can get that "feeling" back, that is an example of what i'm talking about

grit is something i'm still having loads of trouble with. I wish, by nature, I was a more angry person :)