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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Wildcat
Aug 21, 2010 - 3:24AM
Re: Shooting into Soft palate

Wowies, that video really helped alot. Near the end of part one, they work on transcending tone,and what really stood out to me was the inhalation sensation. This part of technique helps me maintain a yawning sensation and also helps me find the soft palate placement, because that is where I would inhale if I were really yawning. I just went up to a D5 easily, with a medium controlled volume and it felt weightless but sounded full.

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Phil
Aug 21, 2010 - 10:19AM
Re: Shooting into Soft palate

yep same thing happened to me. i spent a whole year pushing myself up from an F4 to a C5, and then spent 6 months on C5. in one day i re-reminded myself of the breathing and placement etc etc and instantly went to a d5, then in one week an F5. NOW the only challenge is trying to use those notes in singing on different vowels/consonants :-)

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Val
Apr 21, 2011 - 6:11PM
Re: Shooting into Soft palate

Yeah dude , right! Practice and singing is like the Earth and Mars lol ! Huge difference!! I can do sirens on an open vowel and hit Tenor C but when i try to sing i start to strangle and strain. I think i have mastered the placement (when doing scales) even when i try to sing. But as soon as i go high and try to maintain it in my palate my voice gets thin because my larynx is high.Any advices?

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phil
Apr 21, 2011 - 7:11PM
Re: Shooting into Soft palate

You may be doing the siren correctly but not singing in the same technique you are doing for the siren. or you may be doing both incorrectly. pulling chest is fine up to a certain point, but then you need to pass it off and let the head resonance take over. This is kind of hard to explain I need to ask you a few Q's in order to diagnose what's going on. try adding me on jiyasa@hotmail.com on msn.

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Val
Apr 22, 2011 - 6:46AM
Re: Shooting into Soft palate

Yeah i am kinda confused cause i dont use terms like chest , head , mix etc cause in the book says its one voice ... just shoot it in the palate and you will have a smooth connection and that is a fact i think lol. Btw great advice ... i will add you.How old are you Phil?

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Wildcat
Apr 22, 2011 - 1:01PM
Re: Shooting into Soft palate

it's been a while since I posted that, and I'm much better off not thinking too much about placement. Instead of focusing on placement, I focus on relaxing and breathing and then I check to make sure the placement is where it should be, at the end. It involved a reorder of how I think about my singing process, with detection of extrinsic muscle action being at the top.

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