TJ

The claim you made that sucralose will screw up your thyroid, do you have a source I can look at.

I've done some research, and it seems that in high doses it can cause some damage to the thymus, but not the thyroid.

If you look into the doses used, you'll see why the NICNAS ruled that it isn't a danger to public health.

It was found that animals with a dosage of 3,000mg/kg/day had lower mean thymus weights, and that the threshold for immunotoxicity or any deleterious immunological effects was 750mg/kg/day.

The average male is about 190lbs, which is 86.36kg.
86.36 x 0.75g(750mg) = 64.77g

So the average adult male would have to eat at least 64.77g every day to do damage. This is far more than the average consumption.

Here's a link to the study if you want to see it:
http://www.nicnas.gov.au/publications/car/new/NA/NAFULLR/NA0900FR/NA944FR.pdf

I really don't think people should be worrying about sucralose unless they're using a lot of it.
At least it's not as bad as Aspartame!

My bad =)
I said thyroid when I should've said thymus.
I got my "thighs" confused. lol

another myth is "saturated fats are bad" wrong. man made yes, natural no. coconut is mostly saturated fat, it's extremely good for you. have as much NATURAL fat as you want. as i said, man made stuff is what you need to stay away from. if you are exercising and have a diet consisting ONLY of natural foods you will never get a cold again.

health is amazingly simple, remove anything that's been tampered with by man (only eat natural foods, ie things that aren't in a packet, ie fruit and veg) and exercise (running is the easiest way to lose weight). i recommend water fasting as well, that is by far the quickest, and anyone saying it's dangerous has never done it before and read too much without actually doing.

this topic is my expertise so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask, but really i've summed it all up there. anything not naturally occuring in nature is considered waste when you eat it and will over time block your colon which is how you get disease., look at the ingredients of things you buy, even bread you will find looks like a science experiment. much of what you see in the supermarket isn't food.

i don't eat meat, but you can if you want, the problem arises when you cannot eliminate it within 72 hrs as it rots inside you and thats how you get disease(i've never met anyone who can elimiante it within 72 hrs other than people who live outside of our society in tribes). in order to eat meat and eliminate it properly requires you to be eating a perfect diet of all natural foods, and fasting to clear the years of eating fake foods. i've been eating real foods for over a year and even i am still clogged from 20 years of bad eating, i fasted for 2 weeks and was still ****ting out hardened "rocks" stuff that's trapped up there for years. but if you are going to eat meat, stay away from pig/pork/swine/bacon or whatever you want to call it. there are many that say simply cooking it will remove the trichinosis worm, but there are also many that disagree with this. i know from someone who i trust that looked under the microscope that told me he had to cook it until it was LITERALLY charred black and even then only removed 90% of it. Worms aren't an issue if you are a vege as they only feed on dead rotting tissue.

This is great :) Good on you for taking charge of your life. Visualize yourself every morning and night with your ideal weight. Feel happy and proud of your accomplishments every day. Good luck!

Val

good point oiselle, visualisation really does help craft your reality, if you can't see it, how can you attain it? wish you well john with your endeavour.

Thanks again for the encouraging words and good advice. I did fall off the wagon a few times this week, due to odd hours at work etc..However I did lose exactly 2 pounds!

236.8

58 more to go!!

I decided that I should practice what I preached. I already do everything I suggested previously in this thread, with the exception of sugar. I decided I'd totally cut out sugar and also cut way way back on the amount of OJ and grape juice I have been drinking. I had been consuming a fair amount of brown sugar, molasses, and honey as sweeteners in coffee, green tea, and iced tea.

From cutting out all sugar and nearly all fruit juice I lost 4 lbs last week. =)

if its natural sugars from foods and honey/molasses it's fine man, just don't use the man made ****e. don't want to cut out healthy stuff like that, just the bad man made ****e. if that's what your doing then sorry for misundersatnding

"Did you know that singers produce a certain amino acid which causes weight gain?" - Bruce Dickinson

Keep in mind that this is Bruce we're talking about, he has quite a sense of humour.

forget "scientific proof" learn to tap into observational "science" (thats what i like to call it anyway). there are just as many fat singers as there are skinny singers. so clearly even if it's true it obviously doesn't have much of an effect. now take this into observation: how many people eat a diet of ALL natural foods without ANY processed junk AND exercise DAILY and are fat? i've never seen anyone that's fat that follows this lifestyle. if they are fat then they are failing in these areas in one way or another. biggest problem i find is fat people who genuinely think they are doing all the things right, thats' why a lot of the time they need an outside person who has genuine health to observe what they're doing and can pinpoint and go AH! see how many chemicals are in this thing you think is "bread"??? and they'll say "ohh i dind't realise that was bad". and you don't even exercise! and then they'll go "but i don't have time". I don't know anyone with more hobbies than myself, every day i have to work like anyone else, then come home, and practice bass, guitar, piano, singing, martial arts, recording, and exercise like weightlifting or running. i don't even really get to just sit down and do nothing, but it's alright cos i love the stuff i do. 20 minutes every day on your thing is enough to see improvement so i'll spend about 20mins on each skill roughly some more some less, every day is better than 1 big hit once a week of skill practice. skill is developed by doing something everyday, even if you can do just a little it seriously adds up but it must be EVERY DAY

Haha, that's something Bruce said on the making of A Matter of life and Death DVD. I'm sure he was kidding around. The producer replies back going, "Does that have anything to do with your massive ego?" .. something like that.

I will never take a "well read" man who has never done the activity seriously, when they are trying to tell me I am wrong. Much of the learning is in the doing, and far too many people don't DO. The reason why it isn't good enough to just research is because if you do your research thoroughly (which many don't, they look at one source and conclude that it's settled), you will find just as much against what you are researching as you will find just as much FOR it, in terms of evidence. I can't remember the last thing I researched that was truly "settled", there's always a lot of science for and against it, that's why one must actually apply the knowledge. if they don't want to apply the knowledge then they have no business arguing with someone that actually HAS applied it.

did you know there are many independent scientific groups that are saying our current theory of gravity is "primitive" and is "holding us back"? that is simply the level of how much science appears to NOT BE SETTLED anywhere. I personally don't have a clue, so I won't laugh at someone that says something like that, it helps me keep an open mind. much of what we think is based on belief, and the phrase "scientifically proven" should not give the added oomph and political weight that it seems to do.