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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: RYV's Huge Thread for Vocal Distortion

Here ya go.
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23217747/OOUA_Grit_feeling.mp3

I was going to record more but I'm having some unwanted acid reflux.

Re: RYV's Huge Thread for Vocal Distortion

Holy crap! Insane scream at the end, John. Awesome!

I tried the "ooowah" thing, but when I intensify it with grit, I feel a slight "burn" or soreness feeling in my throat. Do you feel anything in the throat when you do it? I am adding support, so part of the grit is up in the palate and part of it feels down in the throat because of that "rug-burn" type feeling in the cords.

Re: RYV's Huge Thread for Vocal Distortion

Stan
Holy crap! Insane scream at the end, John. Awesome!

Thank you Sir.

Stan

I tried the "ooowah" thing, but when I intensify it with grit, I feel a slight "burn" or soreness feeling in my throat. Do you feel anything in the throat when you do it? I am adding support, so part of the grit is up in the palate and part of it feels down in the throat because of that "rug-burn" type feeling in the cords.


I used to get that burning feeling all the time when I would do grit. I don't any more, it just sort of clicked for me. Much like head voice just "clicked". One day I'm doing nothing but pulling chest then BAM I access headvoice.

Umm I use a lot of vocal fry when training, I think that is a huge part of it. Vocal fry is great for getting that grit sound/feel while being relaxed. I also power push much more than I would when clean singing. If I am adding a small amount of grit it isn't that much more pressure, but if I am going for the pantera/opeth sound, it's locked down hard.

I'll think about it further and maybe I'll have more insight for ya.

Re: RYV's Huge Thread for Vocal Distortion

YES!This was the purpose this thread was created! Great example John King, thats an approach ive never tried and it works! :D Keep it up ;)

Re: RYV's Huge Thread for Vocal Distortion

Hi Jens and everyone,

What a great thread.

I was wondering if one of the folks that is expert in both CVT and RYV might be willing to explain what CVT distortion and creaking are in RYV terms?

Thanks for any pointers (I am re-reading that section of Jamie's book now!).

Doug