THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: "there is never a perfect way to sing rock"

I think we are misunderstanding each other when saying wear and tear. I'm not saying grit (if done properly) will destroy you voice; I'm saying it will wear it out quicker. Well I could very well be wrong, I may not be doing it right. All I know is when I do grit it is tiring, it's not painful and I can speak fine afterward. Same happens when I do whistle it wears me out.

This all could be due to fact that I've have been very lazy for the past 3 months or so and not practicing. I'm losing range and I have to sing Bring Him Home - Les Miserable at a concert in June lol.

Anyway ironically enough I have my vocal lessons at 7:00pm it is 6:30 here. I'll have to watch your videos when I get home later.

Re: "there is never a perfect way to sing rock"

I think that dude is one of those Bret Manning minions who sings just to get chicks.

Re: "there is never a perfect way to sing rock"

@Sofus987,

I watched the videos and I bow to your brilliance. I also tried the technique, I believe I was doing this all along I just engaged the true folds to much to produce grit. Thanks for the videos.

Re: "there is never a perfect way to sing rock"

Stan
I think that dude is one of those Bret Manning minions who sings just to get chicks.


lol

He seems like a nice guy but I do get a vibe from him. It's funny how he cut his hair like Brett's.

Re: "there is never a perfect way to sing rock"

I think you misunderstood Sofus, there has to be a way to do it correctly and save, BUT I think what the guy is trying to point out is that when you start practicing it and trying to find a way to do it correctly, it can be a little damaging for your voice because as Melissa Cross says, the chances are you might be doing it all wrong. That´s why I think it´s important to warn to the vocal student not doing it too much when he´s starting, until he learns how to do it technically right.

Re: "there is never a perfect way to sing rock"

Well grit or distortion as i like to call it, is done by the falsefolds. Use loads of twang and you will be alright, I can scream for hours without feeling anything in my throat. If you loose your twang on the other hand things can get alittle dirty since all the pressure you builded to get the falsefolds moving first will hit the regular folds. This does not happen if you use alot of twang and you can basicly add as much distortion as you want without feeling a thing.