i just found out that the siren thing is NOT what i was doing at all
i'm probably gonna start a new thread soon about what i really was doing, but i'll summarize..i just figured it out, cuz i finally did it again
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ok, so i went to my piano and tried to do some sirens. because i have a hard time differentiating between the right way to do it, and pulling chest, i was straining a lot, and only got up to like an E or an F above middle C.
but then i just started messing around, and i hit the B again! (and later, i pulled it up and realized i could hit an F#5 with this voice)
so once again, i tried to figure out what i did.
So i kept doing it.
it turns out, the "big sound" that sounds to me like a very rocky balboa tone, although in one of your posts you say you don't want that sound, causes me to pull chest. not to say that this can't be fixed, but it doesn't really work for me as of now.
but when i forget about the technique and just do a siren, i use a very nasaly pharyngeal sound, like the nay nay nays in SS. ironically, the nay nay nays were always the hardest for me, and caused me to strain. but when i use it only at my break point, it brings me up into my "full" head voice.
the only problem is (and this is where it gets interesting...) the sound causes me to make a vocal fry sound up until around Ab. so basically, i'm unintentionally frying my way through my break, like brett manning does sometimes, only louder.
i'll put up a video or recording soon, but until i hear someone's opinion on it, i'm not gonna do it again, cuz i kinda feel like it's messing up my voice.
it sounds very groggy.
but i can do it without a tight throat, which is good