Your pulling the tongue out too hard and that's why that little underflap of skin is sore. It could be hitting the teeth and cutting into it. It's to stretch the top party of the tongue at the back.

The Transcending Tone is the hardest exercise to master above anything I've ever done, so don't feel depressed. The two different falsettos you are explaining are probably a real falsetto and just a very light tone, which explains why you can easily do it on one "falsetto" as opposed to the other.

There are so many factors as to what cn be hindering your progress that I am not sure unless I work with you. However, someone on this board please feel free to offer him guidance as I won't be available for lessons until around the 10th of May as I have another show to do in Japan and will be gone for a bit:) So give him a hand guys!!!

I figured out something tonight!
i tried doing falsetto slides in the less heady falsetto that i was talking about, because it sounds a lot more like jaime's audio example. well, it sounded much more like it did in the example, AND i cracked a lot! which means it's something new to work on!
and THAT means that if it is the 'correct' falsetto, then once i master it with this "new" falsetto, i can move on to TT with the proper "foundation"
if u want i can put up a recording or something
and thanks jaime!

Good job, keep working and you'll get it:)

I figured out the perfect way to describe it!
you know how melissa cross has people scream "over the pencil"?
well, the light head voice tone feels "under the pencil", whereas the same pitch in the "true falsetto" feels "over the pencil"
it feels exactly like the placement exercises on the zen of screaming
the under the pencil one seems to have more closure and "substance" but is still very light
anyways, today at school i was on my phone searching though these forums and i saw that other people have asked this same question, so i'll go read those now

alright so i went to bugmenot.com, used the username and password i found on there to get into "fileden.com" and uploaded a .wav file of me demonstrating the two voices.
after listening to the recording, i learned that the "over-the-pencil" one is much breathier than i thought, which is good to know, cuz it probably means i should use the other one, but please listen anyway

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/7/2641123/falsetto%20head%20voice.wav

The "over the pencil" is the same as "focusing in the palate"

so now i'm totally lost lol
did you listen to the audio file?
the one that i could feel "over the pencil" was breathy and mouse-y
the one that felt lower was not...
so which one should i use?

!!!!
i just figured out something that REALLY helps
i tried putting my finger under my chin to check for digrastic muscle tension...then i slid through my break and down and kept doing it. it was really hard to get them to not tense up, especially since the bullfrog exercise kinda made that area get bigger when i go higher, but i got it to relax and it helped A LOT!
so i did it again, only this time, when i got to like an e-flat above middle c, i "transcended" it to full voice, and it was almost seamless. basically, it makes everything a lot easier..
im gonna really work on keeping that area tension-free