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Jean Bradbury

topaz1v@yahoo.com.au


Jul 18, 08 - 10:39 PM
Marriage

I have this marriage :
Marriages Dec 1887
BRADBURY William Henry Ecclesall B 9c 407
NORTH Ann Elizabeth Ecclesall B 9c 407
how do I find out who the parents are without buying certificate ,
regards
Jean
john



Jul 19th, 2008 - 2:37 AM
Re: Marriage

Hi Jean, There is no alternative but to spend the £7 and buy the certificate and then you will only find out who their fathers were. But you will see who the witnesses were and this can sometimes be helpful as they are often family members.
This is an area of family history research that you can't get round. I have spent hundreds of pounds on certificates.
So you will have to raid your piggy bank !!
John
Elaine In Ottawa



Jul 19th, 2008 - 9:09 AM
Re: Marriage

Hi Jean & friends,

Just something to keep in mind......

Prior to 1846 when the huge parish of Sheffield was divided into smaller parishes you could probably bet
that the marriages (if not the baptisms) were performed at Sheffield Parish Church. The Bishop hung on to the rights to perform that ceremony for some time also collecting the fees for it.

After that as the other (Church of England) churches were built, the Vicars who were the Registrars, were able to perform the ceremony.

The Act of toleration 1669 gave nonconformists the right to worship as they pleased and baptisms, marriages and burials were performed by them until 1753 when the Hardwick Act was passed which decreed that ALL marriages had to be performed in either a Church of England, Quaker or Jewish place of worship.

Upon passing of the Births & Deaths Registration Act and the Marriage Act in 1835/36 marriages were permitted in Roman Catholic and nonconformists chapels as well as the local Register Office. A state appointed registrar had to be present at *nonconformists ceremonies.

BMD's from 1st July 1837 "should" have been registered but many were not until 1875 when it became manditory to do so. In 1898 nonconformists clergy were permitted to act as registrars.........

So you can see from the above why we have the problems that we do finding rellies plus the facts that many of the entries were incorrectly registered
as Angela and her group of friends from SDFHS are finding. Anyone interested might be interested in a book "Comedey of Errors" by .. Foster I believe he is from N.Z. who was allowed access to the GRO records.

Hope this helps straighten out some of our problems.

Elaine in Ottawa.
Hugh



Jul 19th, 2008 - 2:03 PM
Re: Marriage

In the end it is essential to prove the relationships by getting the certificate.

Meanwhile however, there are strong indications of the identity of Ann Elizabeth's parents.

In 1901 this couple are one folio away from a NORTH family, with head John, a razor grinder. (Ann is listed as 'Aron' in the index!)

In 1891 the two families are at 19 and 33 Cobden View Road.

In 1881, William Henry BRADBURY is an apprentice of the same John NORTH. (Ann Elizabeth listed as plain Elizabeth).

Hugh
Jean Bradbury



Jul 19th, 2008 - 5:26 PM
Re: Marriage

Hi John,Elaine and Hugh,
and all you other wonderful people out there ,thanks for your help, this is the best site ever,
I wish you all the best
kind regards
Jean


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