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Shane Duffy

shamusthekiwi_46@yahoo.com.au


Jul 18, 08 - 1:06 PM
Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hello everyone Shane here from Christchurch in the South Is of New Zealand.Battling various surgeries over the years I am also battling with the childhood of a Thomas Leslie Crooke born Sheffield Mar 04 1861.
I am trying to piece this man's life together before he arrived here in NZ 1899 as Senior Medical Officer at the new developing Christchurch Hospital.Over the years I have gathered his bith until his death here in 1943 but his childhood eludes me and schooling.I am working from the Dr's autograph book I foung tossed out in the rubbish.Which contains autographs of some 800-900 family relatives friends and colleagues of some great Pioneers from the UK to all over the world to NZ.Some name are mentioned on UK History TV,Antiques Road Show UK as Special interest.
I would acccept any e mails on ANY information made possible to this difficult subject of historical persons.I don't want this man's life to end in grave like so many pioneers of past.
I thank all for any responess in hope of eventually producing a book(s)with acknowlegements.ShaneNZ.
Ann Halford



Jul 18th, 2008 - 1:36 PM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi Shane

From the 1881 census it would seem that his father was an Army Chaplain based in Sheffield.

He possibly wouldn't have attended any local schools but would have had either private tuition or be sent away to school.

A properly qualified doctor would have had to train at a University - Sheffield didn't have a University back then. There were several in the country in the 1880's but the only ones I can bring to mind are Edinburgh and London.

I can't spot him on the 1881 census but if his father was still with the army they would have moved around quite a bit - and abroad as well.

I'll send the 1861 census image via email.

Kind regards, Ann
Shane Duffy



Jul 18th, 2008 - 1:47 PM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Ann thanks for fast reply Im on NZ time but awake almost 6am.Yes I have University and 1861 census of his birth.I have nothing on his childhood or schooling,names of possible schools from Sheffield about 1869 say.I have him recorded and baptised by his father Chaplain Milward Crooke at THE BARRACKS Hillsborough and that's it.Mostly all I haveis his life after 1899 in NZ here in Christchurch.
The family and childhood are nagging me at the moment.
I think I'm running out of steam and records or links.
Thanks YOu greatly for reply too and any help..ShaneNZ
Marlene



Jul 19th, 2008 - 3:05 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

If you look to the left in the margin, you'll see "Parish Records" where there is also a baptism of a sister Beatrice Nora Jane Crooke, presumably you already have this?

Regards,
Marlene
Shane Duffy



Jul 19th, 2008 - 9:27 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi Marlene Yes I had not long ago received those baptismal records I do appreciate you noticing these.
Thanks Shane NZ
Bev Hill



Jul 20th, 2008 - 3:50 PM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Shane
in 1891 he was in Scotland info from ancestry

Name: Leslie Crooke
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire
Registration Number: 685/2
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Mary
County: Midlothian
Address: 7 Grt King St
Occupation: Physician & Surgeon
Household Members: Name Age
Leslie Crooke 30
Agnes Balfour Gregor 28
Alfred Gregor 22
Charles Edward Gregor 20
David Clunie Gregor 69
George James Gregor 17
Jane Gregor 53
Kate MacKenzie 24
Elizabeth Sinclair 21

Bev
Shane Duffy



Jul 20th, 2008 - 4:05 PM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi Bev
Ohh my that is just wonderful as many of those Gregor names are in the Dr's autograph book,names I have not made connection with now I have Charles,David,Alfred,
and Jane Gregor (whom I mistook for Jean).
This is absolutely wonderful information.

Is there any way I can find what these people were doing ie Students work etc or about their parents??

Thanks Shane NZ
Shane Duffy



Jul 24th, 2008 - 12:09 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi everyone helping here.Once again nature has intervened and I'm off for Kidney removal surgery.I am going to be hospitalised for some days after and away from research a bit during recovery.
Thanks to everyone helping and will accept any E Mail interest,but will be slow responding.
Thanks everyone Shane in New Zealand
Marlene



Jul 24th, 2008 - 5:39 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

I wish you well in your surgery and I hope that you make a speedy recovery.

Regards,
Marlene
Vicki



Jul 24th, 2008 - 11:50 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi Shane

Leslie Crooke ....b Sheffield, Physician & Surgeon
Alfred Gregor ... b Edinburgh, Banker
Agnes Balfour Gregor ... b Edinburgh, no occupation given
Charles Edward Gregor ..... b Edinburgh , Student Agricultural
David Clunie Gregor ..... b Perth, Retired Secy of Standard Life Ass Coy
George James Gregor ......b Edinburgh, scholar
Jane Gregor ... b Newtyle, Forfarshire, wife
Kate MacKenzie ... b Plocton, Ross-Shire, cook
Elizabeth Sinclair ... b Wick, Caithness, tablemaid

Census images not available to view per Ancestry

-- " Unfortunately, we are unable to display the accompanying images of this census at present, despite extensive negotiation with the General Register Office for Scotland. Permission from them has not, as yet, been forthcoming. For this reason, and to enable you to continue with your family history research, Ancestry has heavily transcribed the Scottish Census records to ensure you have access to all key areas of information contained within this collection. "

Vicki
Shane Duffy



Aug 9th, 2008 - 6:54 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Thanks all Yes surgery went well Diagnosis Renal/Urethelial Cancer which was in tumour,So minus afew parts modern medicine and surgery has allowed me to continue with Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke or Leslie Crooke as he liked also to be called by...Shane NZ.
Shane Duffy



Aug 24th, 2008 - 7:09 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi all Shane here NZ picking up afew pieces.
We have Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke established in Scotland further to this he worked at the Royal Infirmary Scotland but where and for how long? He was also a Ship's surgeon on the P&O Liners and The New Zealand Shipping Line which I have found no records of any in NZ.
Feel like a mission to find a ship he may have worked on or left the UK on to arrive in NZ before May 1899,
Maybe just a name of a SHIP???Thanks Shane NZ
Elaine in Ottawa

woodhousewilson.tribalpages.com


Aug 24th, 2008 - 10:52 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Shane,

Have a look under our links, there is certainly Ships & New Zealand information there. (Emmigration)


Elaine in Ottawa.
Shane Duffy



Sep 7th, 2008 - 9:32 PM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi Elaine Thanks for new direction.
Sadly many of the sights won't let me in simply because I'm not a paying member.
I have found a T L Crooke sailed from London 1899 to Wellington NZ but can't access to confirm either name or the name of Ship etc.

Im not clued up on this and found these searches extremely difficult.Thanks Shane NZ.
Elaine in Ottawa

woodhousewilson.tribalpages.com


Sep 7th, 2008 - 9:51 PM
Ships List.

Sorry I can't help you with that. As I dont have any NZ relatives....So have had no need to search for them on "Ships Lists"

BUT there are others that are free..... Lots of information under our Links.

Elaine in Ottawa.
Angela



Sep 8th, 2008 - 2:49 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hello Shane.

These are the details from the ships Manifest.

Name: Dr T L CROOKE
Date of departure: 8 March 1899
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Wellington, New Zealand
Passenger destination: Wellington, New Zealand

Date of Birth:
Age: Adult
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Medico

The name of the ship is WAKANUI. New Zealand Shipping Line Limited

Angela
Shane Duffy



Sep 8th, 2008 - 5:08 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Angela
That's wonderful news.I have been waiting so long to find that out.I can finally see Dr T L Crooke and his life unfolding much here with everyones help.Their knowledge and know how of Records I don't have access too.Over the moon.(Hey want another 500 from the Dr's autograph book?)Thankyou Shane Christchurch NZ.
Angela



Sep 8th, 2008 - 8:17 AM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

(Hey want another 500 from the Dr's autograph book?)

Not really Shane....

But I don't mind looking odd ones up..

Angela
Shane Duffy



Sep 28th, 2008 - 5:58 PM
Re: Old Sheffield Schools 1800's

Hi all.Recovery here this time is going to be aslow process afer last Op.Thanks all for still helping.
Most recently a small book appeared called Victorian Voyage a Shipbooard Diary about Annie Beauchamp 1864-1918 nee Dyer and husband Harold Dyer a trip from Wellington NZ to Plymouth UK 1898 March to May.Annie is the mother to Katherine Mansfield a NZ writer.The Surgeon on borad is Dr Thomas Leslie Crooke (SS Ruahine).So I found including Annie's about 10 more autographs from his book including a Count and Countess.So a path is forming as to how the Dr obtained so many autographs.
Although this is not School related,as I still have nothing on his Youth to go on.Just later on i
Any suggestions again thanks Shane???
Ps Angie the 500 was only humour .


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