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Kim Deakin

nindeakin@sky.com Sheffield Indexers


Jul 16, 08 - 4:07 PM
St Michaels RC Cemetery

Does any one know if the burial receipts still exist
for St Michaels Cemetery, lots of my Irish family are buried there, any information would be gratefully received.
Tony



Jul 16th, 2008 - 4:26 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hello Kim,

If you follow the link on the left hand panel to burial records and just enter the surname you are researching. It has St Michaels records from 1862-2003


Tony
Sheffield
Kim Deakin

Sheffield Indexers


Jul 16th, 2008 - 4:32 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Thanks Tony

But is there info regarding who purchased the graves, and if in fact there is a grave stone, a lot to ask i know but it's very difficult for me to visit Sheffield.
Kim Dawtry



Jul 16th, 2008 - 5:23 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Kim

Archives at Sheffield may hold them. If you e-mail them they will be able to tell you whether or not they have what you are looking for.

Catholic family History is hard, yesterday I found a site called the Catholic Family History Society, didn't even know there was one! They have a lot of useful links on there and various publications. Might come in handy for you.

Thought my lot were Catholic, and indeed my Dad is, but now looks like they were Methodist or Wesleyan, just waiting to hear from archives.

Good luck, Kim
Lois Hopkins



Jul 17th, 2008 - 3:30 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

If you do find out there are gravestones and get their numbers I live just down the road from St Michael's so could take some pictures for you.
Lois
Elaine In Ottawa



Jul 18th, 2008 - 7:41 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Kim,

I do have a contact e-mail for the person who looks after the books for St Michaels but I am away from my own computer at this time once I get back I will contact him and see what he has to say....and get back to you.

Kindest regards.

Elaine in Ottawa.
Kim Deakin

Sheffield Indexers


Jul 19th, 2008 - 3:03 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Elaine

That would be fantastic if you could do that for me, I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you for your time.
Kim
Kim Deakin

Sheffield Indexers


Jul 19th, 2008 - 3:13 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Lois.
I know the grave numbers but i don't know if there are any head stones, they were poor Irish people so more than likely none of them had head stones.If i sent the numbers to you would be able to take a look, photographs would be brilliant, i'll gladly pay you for your time.
Thank you for responding.

Kim
Lois Hopkins

www.genealogy4you.co.uk


Jul 19th, 2008 - 3:24 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Kim, That would be fine, I walk past the Cemetery every day walking my dog so I can take a look.
Lois.
Elaine In Ottawa



Jul 19th, 2008 - 8:02 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Kim,

A name and grave number would help......

Thanks Elaine.
Lois Hopkins

www.genealogy4you.co.uk


Jul 19th, 2008 - 11:03 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Is it the Ratigans you want looking up? I used to go to school with a family named Ratigan and they lived in the Crookes area of Sheffield.
Lois
Kim Deakin

Sheffield Indexers


Jul 19th, 2008 - 3:31 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Lois and Elaine

Theres a few graves in St Michaels here goes:

Cunningham Ann ... St Bridgets grave 120 section j
Ratigan Bridget... St Bridgets grave 122 section c
Cunningham Hubert..St Bridgets grave 124 section h
Cunningham Hubert..St Bridgets grave 154 section d
Cunningham Jane ..St Bridgets grave 20 Section ca
Ratigan John ...St Patrick'sgrave 3 Section ra
Ratigan John ...St Patrick'sgrave 40 section I
Cunningham John Michael,
St Patrick's grave 10 section ja
Cunningham Joseph S Bridgets grave 124 section h

Thats it so far, the Ratigans lived mainly on Bailey lane, different houses but same street. Bridget died in the little sisters of the poor nursing home, Heeley Bank Road.

Thanks to both. Look forward to hearing from you.
Ann_Cestor



Jul 19th, 2008 - 10:54 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Elaine

The gentleman you mention, who looks after the books for St Michael's cemetery, I assume these include the St Vincent's burial records? And if so does he also keep the St Vincent's parish registers of births and marriages?

I have often seen people ask where they can get access to these births and marriage records. Are they available to view or have they been transcribed and if so where are they please?
Lois Hopkins

www.genealogy4you.co.uk


Jul 20th, 2008 - 2:40 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Kim,
Thanks for the grave information. That's another coincidence- my partner lives in the grounds of where the nursing home used to be on Heeley Bank Road Lois
Angela



Jul 20th, 2008 - 5:59 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hello Ann.

The baptism and marriage records for St Vincent de Paul, Solly St are deposited with Sheffield archives.
reference Cath2
Baptisms 1853-1949
Confirmations 1858-1906
Banns 1853-1854, 1944-1967
Marriages 1857-1913, 1972-1996

Baptisms records include entries for Stannington and St Anne Deepcar 1872+.
From The Small Guide to Noncomformist and Roman Catholic Churches in Sheffield by S&DFHS.

Angela
Ann_Cestor



Jul 24th, 2008 - 7:05 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Angela

Thanks for that, are you sure about his? If so is it a recent thing? Last time I was down at the Sheffield Archives they told me they only had a burials CD which info I'd already got from this site.

Do we know where the St Vincent's parish records are around the dates you mentioned? Wouldn't you know it, my search carries on around those dates missing from your list. Nobody ever seems to be able to tell me where the records are? I don't know the parameters either, such as dates when/if St Vincent's closed/moved, parish registers stopped etc. My whole family seems to have lived and breathed St Vincent's, which goes to show the grip/control the church had on their lives.

Baptisms from 1950 to whenever
Banns 1855 - 1943 and from 1968 to whenever
Marriages 1914 - 1971

With a lot of Irish people having the same name it's costing a fortune in certificates etc to trace my family, where a peek at the parish register would sort it,
Hugh



Jul 24th, 2008 - 7:49 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

The records of the RC Diocese of Hallam were deposited in Sheffield Archives about 10 years ago.

St Vincent's was created as a mission in 1853 and the church was built in 1856. The parish (if that is the right word?) still exists, but in a new building on a completely different site, in Crookes. They may have later baptism registers?!

You could ask them. Contact details on their website: http://crookes.catholicweb.com/

There is a 50 year closure for all the catholic parish registers at the Archives, which would affect the marriage records listed above. People who can prove a family relationship can access later records of their own relations.

Hugh
Ann_Cestor



Jul 24th, 2008 - 10:38 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Hugh

Yes, I believe so, and I have contacted someone at St Vincents but am given the runaround. No one seems to know where they are for some reason.

Finding out where the records actually are in order to access them (with proof of relationship) would be a start. (For the later ones I've listed I mean.)

I've only just found out about the ones listed above my list so I'll go down and look at these, with proof where necessary.

I was able to see some other 'closed' records invoking the Freedom of Information Act, so I'm no stranger to the process.

I'd even be prepared to transcribe the registers not closed for a searcheable database, it would save everyone a lot of time and money.


Ann
Elaine in Ottawa

woodhousewilson.tribalpages.com


Jul 24th, 2008 - 11:28 PM
St Vincents.

Hi Ann,(Kim)

The information I have is as Hugh & Angela states re St Vincent's......
Sheffield Archives have them......or should as they state in their booklet they now hold the records for the RC Diocese of Hallam.

The LDS also have filmings for St Vincent's up to 1949.
This is what they state they have.....

Church records for St. Vincent's Church, Solly St., Sheffield, 1853-1949

So you could view those at Grenoside......

Hope this helps.

Elaine in Ottawa.
Dave Westnage



Jul 25th, 2008 - 2:43 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Everyone
I have actually used the St Vincent's Parish records at the Sheffield Archive and found the Baptism of my Grandfather in 1895 - so they are certainly there

Cheers

Dave Westnage
Ann_Cestor



Aug 4th, 2008 - 9:31 PM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi All

Well I guess I was misinnformed down at the archives. I'm going to Sheffield soon, I'll have to check them out.

At the archives do we get to see the original books or some copy (MF) of them??

Ann
Lois Hopkins

www.genealogy4you.co.uk


Aug 5th, 2008 - 3:39 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

Hi Ann,
If they are buried in the St Vincent section of St Michael's it will be very difficult to erect a headstone there.The area is unreachable due to it being overgrown and there aren't any other headstones due to it being a communal area. One lady I checked for last week there were 44 people in the same grave- mostly children!
Maybe a plaque would be a better idea.
Lois.
Hugh



Aug 5th, 2008 - 4:28 AM
Re: St Michaels RC Cemetery

When we were working in St Mary's cemetery on Saturday, just over the wall at the top of St Michael's, it was clear they had been doing some major clearance of vegetation - in fact there were people at the bottom carrying branches back and forth. I don't know if this extends to St Vincent's section, but it might!

Hugh


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