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Richard

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Nov 21, 06 - 6:56 PM
Blue Coat School

Anyone have any knowledge of a "Blue Coat School" in Sheffield in 1851 please ? One of my ancestors was there Walter Morton, in 1851 with loads of other people.

I believe it may have been a Charity School; also interested if anyone has knowledge of Blueboy Street ....

Mant Thnks
Hugh



Nov 22nd, 2006 - 5:36 AM
Re: Blue Coat School

The following was posted some time ago on the ENG-Sheffield list by Eric Youle:

"The Sheffield Boys' Charity School, also know as the Bluecoat School, was established in 1706 to provide the orphan boys of Sheffield with a home and education. From 1710 to 1911 the school was located at the corner of East Parade & Campo Lane, then moving to a new building on Psalter Lane Ecclesall, now a College of Art.

The school was under strict semi-military disciple and the boys wore a blue tail coat with brass buttons, green corduroy trousers, white neckbands and blue muffin caps. Some photos are available."

Also from Eric's website at http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~exy/ comes the following excerpt from a discussion from 'Reminiscences of Old Sheffield', dating from about 1873. This is written in the form of a discussion between several old Sheffielders:

"LEONARD: It is rather a digression from Bank street, yet there may not be a better opportunity of adding that the Parish Churchyard used to be a common playground for all the boys who chose to use it. Numbers constantly availed themselves of the privilege and fraternized with the Charity School boys in all their youthful gambols. Their great amusement used to be vaulting over the tombstones. One feat in particular was to leap " o'er t'alli"-a so-called alabaster slab, but really of Derbyshire marble, forming the top of a tomb near the vestry door.* When the churchyard was closed to these pranks (1830), the late Mr. Samuel Roberts devised for the Charity boys the elevated playground high up above York street, where they may be heard romping any day.

TWISS : The Boys' Charity School would be a questionable charity" in days written of by the gentleman whose name you have just mentioned, when its management was " farmed, " and when the sleeping room of the poor little creatures was let for dancing parties and assemblies.

WRAGG: A past master of that school ought not to pass unmentioned - Mr. Joseph Youle, who published the " Arithmetical Preceptor," in 1813. As a tutor it has never been surpassed."

The building in East Parade still exists. There are several pictures at PictureSheffield eg http://www.picturesheffield.com/jpgh/s06605.jpg

Hugh
Heather



Nov 22nd, 2006 - 1:05 PM
Re: Blue Coat School

The old admissions books and visitors books for the school are at Sheffield archives but unfortunately they only go up to 1847.

Ref Blue Boy St this still exists - off Allen St. You can see it at www.multimap.com

Heather
Tony



Nov 22nd, 2006 - 3:33 PM
Re: Blue Coat School

Hi Richard,


According to the Peter Harvey book "street names of Sheffield" Blueboy Street takes it name from the then nearby "Blue Boy Tavern" that took its name from the jacket worn by pupils of the bluecoat school

Tony
Sheffield
Richard



Nov 24th, 2006 - 5:43 PM
Re: Blue Coat School

That is a considerable contribution of knowledge about a very obscure subject; I offer my thanks for your knowledge, willingness to share, now where can I find an existing example of "Crozzle" so my sister (Sheffield based) to go and take a photograph of please ?
Barry



Nov 25th, 2006 - 6:11 AM
Re: Blue Coat School

Hi Richard I always thought that Crozzle was overcooked bacon which was said to be Crozzled. Barry
Hugh



Nov 25th, 2006 - 7:21 AM
Re: Blue Coat School

Crozzle is the 'crust' removed from around the newly made steel in a cementation furnace. It came from the mixture which included wheel swarf which was packed round the iron rods to seal them before they were 'cooked' in the furnace.

Crozzle was hard and jagged and painful to touch and was used to top walls, in the same way that sometimes broken glass has been used - to discourage people from climbing over them. I have seen crozzle on walls in various places but I can't remember where I will keep my eyes open and make a note. Probably someone with a better memory will know where to look.

Hugh
Lyn



Nov 25th, 2006 - 11:23 AM
Re: Blue Coat School

Crozzle - you will see some down Attercliffe way. We went on a walk during Environment weeks some years ago and were shown some on top of a wall and had the term explained. Crozzled is a Sheffield word and yes we do use it to describe well done bacon. I think it must have been on a wall somewhere in the region of Washford Bridge. Can I suggest you post again under Crozzled Walls - I'm sure you will get more interesting replies.
Lyn
Richard



Nov 25th, 2006 - 8:02 PM
Re: Blue Coat School

If I post it under crozzled walls I might just get locked up


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