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Norman Alderman



May 14, 08 - 5:45 PM 		Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Well, the other shoe has dropped--The Board has been sued for 2.4 million dollars. Four mothers, one who is a school employee are seeking compensation for "pain, suffering, mental anquish, emotional distress, impairment of capacity to enjoy life, annoyance and inconvenience" And there has been plenty of that to go around with this board of education.

They are accusing the board of an attempt to hide the incident and misinform parents. Where have we heard that before?

The board trying to hide the truth! Unbelievable, except that you will recall that they tried to hide what they had done with the golf money.

Now you are beginning to see what a dysfuncitonal school system we really have.

The BOE even hired Martha Dean, an outside consultant to come in an gloss over the incident. She is nothing but a hired hand to make superintendents look good when they have messed up big time.

In this case, it was the superintendent's wife who was one of the culprits in the matter. She was on the bus. She went back to investigate the matter and saw no problem.

The Times states that "one of the teachers on the trip went to bhe back of the bus at least once to quiet the students. The teacher didn't see either the lancet or th poking, according to the report (Dean's report). [note: that the teacher in question is Dr. Law's wife] She was never disciplined in any manner for her neglect of duty.
kk



May 14th, 2008 - 7:57 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

No there was no reprimands and the concerns of the parents fell on deaf ears. The board members did not want to hear about the incident and Dr. Law was busy covering for Martha, instead of worrying about the children. I am glad Groseclose lost the election because he was a board member at the time of the incident and turned a deaf ear to the situation. Ruth Taylor is more interested in maintaining her friendship with Ms. Law rather than advocate for the children in this situation. I hope the parents prevail in this situation because children were abused by an adult while the teachers socialized in front of the bus.
Holler Crawler



May 14th, 2008 - 8:18 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I am extremely disappointed to hear about this incident coming to light again to the tune of 2.4 million dollars.

Ms. Sharp used absolute horrible judgement, no doubt about that. However, she is serving her time - away from her family and more importantly her children. The sentence she received is much more than most repeat criminals that we read about in the PC Times on an all too often basis. What happens to them? NADA

Six-hundred thousand a piece ? ? Are you kidding me? That is nothing but blatant greed at its finest. If someone knows for sure that these "infant Plaintiffs" have sustained the severe mental and emotional trauma that is being suggested then please let us know.

This has been done with for some time now. Why are these hens trying to get things ruffled up again? MONEY? This affects us all. I do not want any child to be hurt, but being poked by a lancet is hardly worth 2.4 million dollars of our tax money.

What are the chances that there are any blood born diseases amongst those kids? Slim to nil at best? Don't they have the opportunity to be tested every 6 months for X number of years to see if there are any complications from the incident?

Better supervision? Absolutely. But be reasonable.

I hope it is thrown out of court a.s.a.p. I might be in the minority, but this is just not right. Hopefully there are a few more folks who agree with me somewhere down the line.
12345



May 14th, 2008 - 8:23 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Norman, while you were employed by the board and drawing an income you didn't think they so bad and corupt, again how you change your thoughts and views on things, amazing.
To Holler Crawler



May 14th, 2008 - 8:27 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I agree wholeheartedly! I couldn't have said it better myself.
I



May 15th, 2008 - 12:34 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Was there not more than 4 children? What about those other parents? Were they left out? I am not sure that the school was at fault. There is only one person to blame and that is Sheila Sharp. No other adult did such a thing, only her. I asume that Sharp does not have any money to pay such a debt. Are these 4 thinking that someone should have to pay, so why not the school? I think that all of the claims of the 4 is extreme. Maybe this case is what one might call fleecing of America... I'm sure that they believe that they have their reasons.
Norman Alderman



May 15th, 2008 - 6:44 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

So what price do you put on worrying whether five or ten years from now your child gets AIDS? Is it .5, 1. 2.0 million or what? Today we are dealing with latency periods of many years in some cases.
JEAN



May 15th, 2008 - 8:11 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
MARTHA IS A FINE CHRISTIAN TEACHER. SHE WOULD NEVER HURT ANY CHILD AND HAS LIVED HER LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE TO ALL. HER GRANDPARENTS WERE BOTH TEACHERS - HER MOM ALSO. SHE KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A CHRISTIAN-LOVING TEACHER. JUST-HER MOTHER (JEAN R. MOORE)
Holler Crawler



May 15th, 2008 - 8:51 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Latency period for those pre-adolescent children in Pocahontas County to develop AIDS that were on the bus that very day.....hmmmmm.

I probably have a far better chance to become a NASA astronaut, find a cure for every cancer, hit the lottery in each state plus the powerball, and get hit by lightning while being attacked by a shark - ALL in one day than those kids have of acquiring AIDS from this incident Norman. No childs safe welfare has a monetary value but gimme a break about this. Frivolous.
SS



May 15th, 2008 - 9:31 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

To Mother: No one said she did the deed and hurt the children...but her lack of supervision did.
otis



May 15th, 2008 - 9:46 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Dear Jean,

Lack of supervision contributed to child abuse. Dear Martha was in charge of this trip. The fact that you believe she is a great teacher and her parents were great teachers has nothing to do with this lawsuit. The fact that Martha did not have enough foresight to have the teachers sit throughout the bus in order to supervise this trip was gross negligence on her part. If the teachers are not responsible for the children why do they get paid to go on the trip? Ms. Law blamed the children for the incident---I believe she said they should have yelled louder!!!
sunny



May 15th, 2008 - 9:55 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Holler, where are you getting your statistical data? Maybe you need to do a little more research and back it up. You seem quite angry and emotional. Another friend of Ms. Law so we need to keep this hidden under the rug. And while the adult Ms. Sharp was taking a contaminated lancet and ******** children wonder what she thought the consequences of her actions would be? You seem to think the punishment was a little harsh. The children were the victims so try not to forget that in your defense of others. I hope justice prevails.
Sunshine



May 15th, 2008 - 11:32 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I don't see where this is worth 2.4million or not but i would hate to be the one to worry has to rather my child is infected with aids for the rest of his/her life by this ignorant incident because she is a mother also.How would she feel if the tables were turned on her? (posted by someone other than Sunshine)I'm just posting on her computer.
Say What???



May 15th, 2008 - 12:30 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

This one doesn't even pass the smell test. It won't get far.
just a thought



May 15th, 2008 - 1:30 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

When you are in charge of a trip, you are responsible for what happens. Ms. Law as I hear it heard the children yelling. Instead of just getting up and seeing what is going on she should of just stayed back in the bus and saw nothing else was going on. Instead she went back to the front of the bus and did nothing. As for the BOE, if they just had enough guts to stand up for something, they wouldn't get in to as much trouble. I for one have been told by the BOE that they don't have anything to do with the children. They can't go aginst Dr Laws decisions. I say what are they for. The amount of money that we are paying them to sit in their seats and past whatever Dr. Law wants is a lot. In this case the children are on the wrong side and the Teachers are right no matter. Our Children have to pay for the blunder of a teacher.
just wondering



May 15th, 2008 - 5:16 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

What about Cindy Morrison? Wasn't she also a teacher on the bus for that trip? Why isn't she being mentioned in any of this?
Holler Crawler



May 15th, 2008 - 5:24 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Hey Sunny,

I don't know Mrs. Law from a can of paint nor do I have any personal stake in this.

However, I am a taxpayer in this county and this suit is stinking up the joint. If medical issues arise with any one of the children because of this incident then the BOE should be liable. But just to hand over a potential sum of 2.4 million dollars to the parents "just in case", is pretty dumb to me.

Sorry if I seem to be angry and emotional dear, I'm just tired of people expecting the bucks to roll in because they were somehow wronged. It's life. Suck it up and say your prayers. Peace Out!
p;



May 15th, 2008 - 6:04 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Suck it up and say your prayers???????????????? What is that about? I think that there was lack of responsibility on that bus by those adults! When we would go on a school trip we would sit all over the bus. Not just in the front where you can talk to each other. Mrs. Law should have directed everyone to where she wanted them to sit and SUPERVISE!! Also, a child told a teacher at a certain point what was going on and nothing happened. It's just like the Dr. Sharp trial...medicaid fraud...everyone takes up for him..he has scammmed the county for years and THAT IS OK WITH EVERYONE...just like this...POOR MRS. LAW...She should have took some responsibility herself!!
County Resident



May 15th, 2008 - 6:08 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Well..everyone is out for a buck these days, are they not ?? I do feel certain that if any judgements are awarded, they should be put in trust for the children, not to be used for the parents pleasure. I don't know much about law suits, as I have never sued anyone, but this just seems so extreme. Wonder who cooked up this money maker ?
carl



May 15th, 2008 - 6:36 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

You cannot put a price tag on someone's fear they might become infected with a deadly disease because of another person's choice. This is about principle, not money. This is about protecting people that may have made mistakes.
Norman Alderman



May 15th, 2008 - 7:43 PM 		Here's why they are asking for $600,000

From the original infection, there is usually a period of 8 to 10 years before the clinical manifestations of AIDS occur; however, this period may be two years or less. Approximately 10% of patients succumb to AIDS within 2 to 3 years.

a) Acute infection (acute retroviral syndrome)

If acquired by sexual activity, the virus enters the body in infected macrophages in semen or vaginal secretions. Dendritic cells in the mucosal linings bind the virus shed by macrophages and carry it to the lymph nodes where CD4+ T4 cells become infected. During the course of the disease, the virus migrates to other cell types.

Initially, HIV infection produces a mild disease that is self-limiting. This is not seen in all patients and about half remain asymptomatic during the initial period of infection. In the period immediately after infection, virus titer rises (about 4 to 11 days after infection) and continues at a high level over a period of a few weeks (figure 4). The patient often experiences some mononucleosis-like symptoms (fever, rash, swollen lymph glands) but none of these is life-threatening. There is an initial fall in the number of CD4+ cells and a rise in CD8+ cells but they quickly return to near normal. At this stage virus titers are very high with as many as one hundred million virus particles per milliliter of plasma.

There is a "window period" of seronegativity during which an infected person does not give a positive western blot HIV test or ELISA, even though the viral load is high and the patient may exhibit some symptoms. This seronegative period can last for six months before seroconversion although the latter usually occurs between one and four weeks after infection.
Norman Alderman



May 15th, 2008 - 7:45 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

c) A latent reservoir. As a result of the strong immune defense, the number of viral particles in the blood stream declines and the patient enters clinical latency (figure 4). Little virus can now be found in the bloodstream or in peripheral blood lymphocytes and, initially, the number of blood CD4+ cells is only slightly decreased. Nevertheless, the virus persists elsewhere, particularly in lymph nodes and here viral replication continues as follicular dendritic cells interact with more T4 cells that become infected. The virus is also replicated by macrophages.

Although the number of HIV particles in the bloodstream is much reduced during clinical latency, the virus is detectable. After the initial peak of virus, the virus reaches a "set point" during latency. This set point predicts the time of onset of clinical disease. With less than 1000 copies/ml of blood, disease will probably occur with a latency period of more than 10 years. With less than 200 copies/ml, disease does not appear to occur at all. Most patients with more than 100,000 copies per ml, lose their CD4+ cells more rapidly and progress to AIDS before 10 years. Most untreated patients have between 10,000 and 100,000 copies per ml in the clinical latency phase (See below).
sunny



May 15th, 2008 - 7:52 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Dear Holler, I am a tax payer also. I pay close attention to board members etc. that are not doing their jobs. This board and Dr. Law tried their best to sweep this incident under the rug. Studies have shown that the best way to get a lawsuit filed is to turn a deaf ear and close your eyes in these types of situations. When people are not "heard" they consult an attorney. If you don't like the math be careful who you vote for. Board members are elected. This is not the only law suit filed against the board of education recently. Did you carry on so about that lawsuit? Or just this one that involved child abuse?
Norman Alderman



May 15th, 2008 - 7:59 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Hepatitis C is a liver disease.

Hepatitis (HEP-ah-TY-tis) makes your liver swell and stops it from working right.

You need a healthy liver. The liver does many things to keep you alive. The liver fights infections and stops bleeding. It removes drugs and other poisons from your blood. The liver also stores energy for when you need it.

[Top]
What causes hepatitis C?
Hepatitis C is caused by a virus.

A virus is a germ that causes sickness. (For example, the flu is caused by a virus.) People can pass viruses to each other. The virus that causes hepatitis C is called the hepatitis C virus.

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How could I get hepatitis C?
Hepatitis C is spread by contact with an infected person's blood.
You could get hepatitis C by
Man offering another man a syringe.
You could get hepatitis C by sharing drug needles.

* sharing drug needles

* getting ******* with a needle that has infected blood on it (hospital workers can get hepatitis C this way)

* having sex with an infected person, especially if you or your partner has other sexually transmitted diseases

* being born to a mother with hepatitis C

NEED I POST PICTURES TOO!!!!!
Norman Alderman



May 15th, 2008 - 8:04 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Home : Digestive Diseases A-Z List of Topics and Titles : Hepatitis Series : What I need to know about Hepatitis A

What I need to know about Hepatitis A

On this page:

* What is hepatitis A?
* What causes hepatitis A?
* How could I get hepatitis A?
* Who can get hepatitis A?
* What are the symptoms?
* How is hepatitis A treated?
* How can I protect myself?
* For More Information
* Acknowledgments

What is hepatitis A?
Hepatitis A is a liver disease.

Hepatitis (HEP-ah-TY-tis) makes your liver swell and stops it from working right.

You need a healthy liver. The liver does many things to keep you alive. The liver fights infections and stops bleeding. It removes drugs and other poisons from your blood. The liver also stores energy for when you need it.
Image of the location of the liver in the human body.

[Top]
What causes hepatitis A?
Hepatitis A is caused by a virus.

A virus is a germ that causes sickness. (For example, the flu is caused by a virus.) People can pass viruses to each other. The virus that causes hepatitis A is called the hepatitis A virus.

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How could I get hepatitis A?
Hepatitis A is spread by close personal contact with someone else who has the infection.

You could also get hepatitis A by

* eating food that has been prepared by someone with hepatitis A

* drinking water that has been contaminated by hepatitis A (in parts of the world with poor hygiene and sanitary conditions)

Woman Eating
Wash your hands before fixing or eating food.

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Who can get hepatitis A?
Anyone can get hepatitis A.

But some people are more likely to than others:
An illustration of two children playing.
Children in day care could get hepatitis A.


* people who live with someone who has hepatitis A

* children who go to day care

* people who work in a day care center

* men who have sex with men

* people who travel to other countries where hepatitis A is common

At one time, we did have Hepatitis A loose in the school system but apparently it went away.

Ironically, this validated our allegations that the school board president should not also be the health board president because of a potential conflict between protecting the kids and the expense of protecting the kids. Because we successfully moved the court to get rid of Kermit Friel who was both the board president and the health board president, that no longer is a problem.
Mom of Many



May 15th, 2008 - 10:24 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

The fact of the matter is that this was a school sanctioned trip. It should have had the same supervision that children have in the classroom. There is no excuse for the lack of supervision that occured during this trip. Parents who volunteer to chaperone on trips, take on a great responsibility to the students and the school system. I can not tell you how many trips that I have went on, and observed the behavior of the school staff. Needless to say I was not impresssed. Mrs. Law neglected her duty to the children and the Board of Education. I find it impossible to believe that this type of behavior was going on and there wasn't any noise, any type of commotion that would make the average rational person think that something wasn't going on? The Board of Education needs to get down off of their high horse and do the right thing. I find it hard to believe that they haven't been sued for lots of things that go on in our school system. I hope that the parents/children prevail. We need to send a serious message to the staff of our schools and the Board of Education. BE ACCOUNTABLE, HAVE SOME BACKBONE, ADMIT BEING IN THE WRONG, AND NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
Curious



May 16th, 2008 - 2:38 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

What in the world would make a grown woman carry lancets on the bus of a school trip and then proceed to stick several of the children on the bus? I am just shocked! I, for one, feel no sympathy for Ms. Sharp, who as someone mentioned is being held away from her kids. If she is carelessly endangering other people's children, what is she doing to her own? If that were one of my kids, you can be sure I would sue anyone involved. Regardless of what capacity they were or were not involved in, they should be held accountable. To have to wait for the rest of this young child's life to see what might happen because of this, to constantly worry that they have contracted something, that kind of waiting and wondering is not something I would wish on anybody. How do you put a monetary value on that quality of life? My guess is to aim high because it will likely be reduced in the long run.
Tom



May 16th, 2008 - 8:45 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Norman...

How is $2.4 million going to keep these children from the possibility of contracting AIDS or Hepatitis in the future?
Is money the the magic cure? How would getting a bundle of money keep these parents from worrying about what may happen to therir child 10 years from now? They are not very good parents if money can cure their concerns about the health of their child. It is like, "Give me the money and I can stop worrying". Give me a break. What a joke. These people are just greedy and are trying to get something for nothing. It was an unfortunate incident but it doesn't warrant a $2.4 million payment by the taxpayers.
Etater = PC-CNN



May 16th, 2008 - 9:23 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

This was a tragic story and one that shouldn't have happened. There is plenty of blame to pass around. Hopefully, safeguards have been put in place to minimize this happening again. Hopefully, people in direct authority have been managed/disciplined in a manner to minimize this happening again.

This being said, it is not fair for the taxpaying citizens of Pocahontas County to bear this burden. Doctor bills, hospital bills, etc. should be covered. There should not be a windfall made on this situation. If the children ever come down with a serious disease, the county should bear the cost to treat them.

If a jury does award the children money, it should be held in trust until they are adult age. The money should not wind up in the hands of their parents!
Concur with Etater = PC-CNN



May 16th, 2008 - 9:36 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Etater = PC-CNN could not have said it better. If needed, set up a trust fund for future medical care and insure (if possible) that only a condition caused by this one incident is to be covered. Do NOT give the parents access is this money. I'm sure the kids are real excited at the prospect of a new ATV and could care less about the school bus incident.
Tom



May 16th, 2008 - 9:37 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

There should be no free payday for these parents. It is greed not concern for the children that is behind the lawsuit. It doesn't take a genius to see what they are trying to do. I wonder, who is the sleezeball lawyer that is encouraging them?
research



May 16th, 2008 - 10:19 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Perhaps if Dr. Law and the BOE would have listened to the parents and showed some concern for the parents and children related to this incident a lawsuit would not have been filed. Ms. Law took NO responsibility for this and blamed the children and Mr. Law concurred. No reprimands for the employees on the bus because they were not held accountable. I do not blame the parents for getting an attorney. I hope Norman wins his lawsuit and I hope the parents prevail in this suit----
Norman Alderman



May 16th, 2008 - 10:28 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I guess some of you are going to need pics. Stay tuned!
Tom



May 16th, 2008 - 10:32 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I'm sure everyone of you are perfect and there would have been no possibility of anything like this happening if you had been in charge, but the children were not blessed with your presence on this trip and an incident occured that not one of you could have predicted or prevented had you been there so quit trying to place blame on anyone other than the person that was responsible. Who would have guessed that we needed a chaperone for the chaperones.
Money does not buy Happiness



May 16th, 2008 - 10:41 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I have to agree with "TOM" this has nothing to do with those boys. It is the smart A** parents that are behind this and A.G. is the one who started the whole thing. There is NOTHING wrong with these boys NOTHING!!! Hel*, I see most of them on a daily basis and they are not suffering in any way shape or form. I have yet to see them suffering, crying, depressed, sick, they are always happy and fun to be around. IT is the parents and they should be ashamed of themselves.
C.R. is like A.G.'s little shadow so what ever A.G. says or does is what ever she will go along with. This is so stupid.
They talk about there child suffering??? NOW all of the counties kids are going to suffer because of the money they are asking for from our county. ALL of the kids are going to have to do without things in our schools because as you said ... GREED!!!
GET a life ladies.
A.G. is not happy unless she is starting trouble somewhere somehow. NEVER happy. I think she is the one that is suffering. Hopefully the money will help make her feel better. I hope they all know that money does not buy happiness and they should just be happy and thankful that the boys are not really suffering in anyway.
Darn this makes me so mad. I know I am going to get so much flack back on this but man do I feel better just knowing that at least 1 person read it and knows how I really feel.
Tom



May 16th, 2008 - 10:41 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Norman...

Do you have pics showing how $2.4 million will prevent these kids from getting AIDS or Hepatitis? I would be interested in seeing them. I didn't know money would prevent AIDS and Hepatitis.
research



May 16th, 2008 - 11:35 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

So Tom, you don't believe the teachers on the bus should be held accoutable. Parents should do nothing?
Tom



May 16th, 2008 - 11:45 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

The person that was responsible for the incident was held accountable. Are you trying to say that Ms. Law was responsible for looking after the adult that instigated the whole thing? If you had known what Ms. Sharp was going to do why didn't you report her?
Ziggy



May 16th, 2008 - 11:53 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

WHO WAS THE ADULT HERE????????

Any one who says these parents do not derseve compensation needs to see a neursurgeon for a craniotomy.

Try going to sleep at night and not worrying about the possibility of your child's blood tests coming back positive for HIV or Hepatitis for the next few years. Any parent should be able to expect their child to be safe in school or on a school trip.

What next does the next chaperone take on your county school bus???????????????????????????????????????
research



May 16th, 2008 - 11:58 AM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Why do you think your tax dollars are paying the teachers to take the trips? You seem so concerned about the money. If the teachers are NOT responsible and accountable why are we senting them on the trips, just send the children without adults. If the teachers did their jobs the incident may not have occurred. I believe that is the basic for the lawsuit. If you have children, would you send your children on a bus trip where the teachers are not responsible for the well-being of the children on the trip?
Tom



May 16th, 2008 - 12:00 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Ziggy...

The adult here was the one that was prosecuted for what she did.

And just how is $2.4 million going to prevent the possibility of a child's blood tests fom coming back positive for HIV or Hepatitis for the next few years.
You are just like these parents. You think the taxpayers owe you a fortune. What an a$$hole.
I used to be FYI



May 16th, 2008 - 12:12 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Who would ever dream that one of the ADULT chaperones needed to be watched? Not me...

I think this is a shame. I think Norman feels this is an "excellent" story simply because these women are suing Dr. Law's wife. He just wants misery and heartache to rain down upon the Laws, and the BOE. He doesn't care about those kids...
wondering



May 16th, 2008 - 12:40 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Does Ms. Sharp have a prior felony charge? Just wondering!
Money does not buy Happiness



May 16th, 2008 - 12:41 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Tom, you and I think alike. This just burns me up. These mothers are not doing this for the kids they are doing it for themselves. All high and mighty. All four of them are sad sick people. If they are thinking of their kids then what do they think they are putting them through with bringing all of this up again. Sheila's son and husband has suffered enough. I do not even know her or them but I do know these 4 ladies and I am really surprised at M.H. for this. Like I said, they have a leader. I would never stoop to her level.
research



May 16th, 2008 - 1:14 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Ms. Sharp should have been thinking about her family when she proceeded to get on a school bus and stick children with a comtaminated lancet. Do you think that was okay? Poor thing, she got jail time. What did she expect would happen? And Ms. money does not buy happiness what would you have done had it been your child that was abused on a school bus? Nothing?
Ziggy



May 16th, 2008 - 2:42 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Tom, Tom, Tom,

Anger management.

I do not need the 24 million I am worth millions. I also do not know the parents or Ms. Sharp. So therefore I am not being influenced by either side. I however do know the law and these parents should be paid for mental anguish. In fact I just spoke to an attorney about the situation who advised me this was a very small amount for these parents to be asking for.
Mom of Many



May 16th, 2008 - 3:52 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Why are the taxpayers responsible for paying if the amount is awarded? I am sure that Board of Education has a very good insurance policy that covers negligence on the part of their employees. This is not a cash cow for the parents. Do you have any idea what the projected costs of health care are? It would be irresponsible on the part of the parents if they didn't advocate on behalf of their children. The teachers are responsible for the welfare of the children while on trips away from the school, no amount of complaining can change that. Maybe if a little more attention was paid to who was given approval to chaperone, this wouldn't have happened. But the truth of the matter is that it did happen. The Board has to do the right thing. They approved the chaperon, and Mrs. Law was in charge.
Etater = PC-CNN



May 16th, 2008 - 5:14 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Mother of Many,

Don't be naive. When an insurance company pays a claim, where do you think the money comes from? What do you think happens to the premiums of an insured intity when their carrier pays a huge claim?

There is no free lunch on these deals. WE ALL PAY! THAT IS HOW INSURANCE WORKS! There is no free pool of money waiting to be issued.

The children may be have some expenses that should be covered. They are entitled to that. However, I doubt if $2.4 million dollars will make their situation with the event any different.

And I still say, if they do get money, it needs to be placed in a trust until they are adults.
I used to be FYI



May 16th, 2008 - 5:31 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Don't forget Norman's suit for..what, $1 million?...against the BOE. Do you think their insurance will cover that as well, with no negative effects for the children?
ziggy



May 16th, 2008 - 5:44 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Mom of Many,

I applaud your comment.
Curious



May 16th, 2008 - 6:07 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I'm just curious as to why Mrs. Law is the only teacher mentioned in the suit? She's the ONLY one who went to the back of the bus to settle down the kids. What were the other teachers doing and were there other parents on the bus? If they were approved as chaperones, aren't they just as liable? Afterall, chaperones are taken on trips to help the teachers. Sounds like there was a total breakdown in supervision on the part of ALL adults on the trip, including the driver. He has a mirror to see what's going on in the back of the bus. This just surprises me that more people haven't been named in the lawsuit.
Norman Alderman



May 16th, 2008 - 6:35 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Did you realize that when Kermit Friel and Kenny Vance were kicked off the Board of Education that the insurance company paid their legal fees?
Curious



May 16th, 2008 - 8:48 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I'd say that this will put a stop to most field trips in the future. Who would want to be responsible for a group of kids when they face being sued? I certainly won't chaperone any trips and take the risk, nor am I sure that I'll allow my children to go on trips.
Mom of Many



May 17th, 2008 - 3:43 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

I know that insurance payments come out of the Board's budget. HOWEVER, there have been many disturbing things that have happened during the course of time that I have had children in school. In the past the Board has had quite the reputation of "don't ask, don't tell". Many questionable and legal issues have arisen concerning lack of discpling teachers for questionable behavior with minor students, hiring and firing practices, and disturbing instances with teachers and students in the class room. Only a NAIVE person who is out of touch with the school system in Pocahontas County would be suprised over this law suit. I hope it sends a strong message to the system. If we the taxpayers in any way have to foot the bill, maybe eonough people will complain and the Board will straighten up.

Can you imagine what could happen if anyone of these children actually came down with a life changing illness as a result of this incident? I went to the hospital recently and had three stitches, it cost close to $1000.00. Health care costs are out of this world. Traveling to and from larger hospitals is at least a 1-3 hour drive depending on where you go, having to stay over for a few nights, compounded with
with the cost of gas and food has put famalies without insurance (or insurance that refuses to pay benefits) into financial ruin. Let's not even get into the cost of prescription drugs.

People's situations change. Right now some these famalies (maybe all of them, I don't know)might be in good financial shape. But that doesn't mean that they will be in the future. It will not do them any good to wait and see how their children's health will be affected, you only have so long to file a law suit before the statute of limitations runs out.

Complain to the Board if you are afraid of having to help tote the bill for their negligence. I don't believe in filing a law suit over every little thing, it bogs down the legal system and promotes a mentality of ambulance chasers. I would like to think that some good will come out of the whole mess.
Norman Alderman



May 17th, 2008 - 6:00 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

It is true that Pocahontas County is a fairly expensive customer for the insurance company. Remember, that they had to pay Jake Beard $2,000,000. The county commission has seen its insurance rates sky rocket because of the negligence of its officers and employees. At some point, the majority of this county are going to have to stop electing board members and officials who are incompetent to administer good safe government.

What will it take?

Apparently, people are beginning to step up to the plate and get rid of board members that sit around and do nothing like Jesse Groseclose.
sunny



May 17th, 2008 - 6:39 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

To-Mom of Many--you have made so many good points. And indeed the board members closed their eyes and followed the leader again in this situation---Dr. Law in this case. These parents went before the board and was not allowed to discuss this incident. Neither the board members nor Dr. Law asked or inquired about these children. Board members were all contacted regarding this incident and really did not want to hear about it. These parents received no support from the board or Dr. Law. As far as I am concerned the board members and Dr. Law need replaced.
We need people that will fight for the children and not tolerate child abuse. Alot of these board members seem to have their own personal agenda as does Dr. Law. They follow the leader---look at Norman's lawsuit--they all voted the same way. We need people who are not afraid to stand up for what is right.
Norman Alderman



May 17th, 2008 - 8:32 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

"He has a mirror to see what's going on in the back of the bus." Do you know how small a lancet is and you expect a driver to see it in the back of a bus?
I used to be FYI



May 17th, 2008 - 10:10 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

It would be easy to hide from teachers too.
Norman Alderman



May 17th, 2008 - 10:12 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

Especially if they are at the front end of the bus where they driver is.
Angelheart



May 17th, 2008 - 11:40 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

This will not stop any future field trips in the future and it shouldn't have to. Do you remember the field trip several years ago the kids took to Busch Gardens? How many kids ended up in UVA in Charlottsville for dehydration. Why? Were they told and watched to make sure they drank enough water while at the park on such a hot day? Who was there supervising them then? Did any of the parents sue? I think if kids are on trips, then whoever the adults are need to keep watch. However, kids will always find ways to outsmart the adults. I know, because I was once a kid. We all were. And, as for these field trips, all kids need them. They need that special day because they've earned it. When I was in school, we went to science and art museums, amusement parks, concerts, plays, and even roller skating. These are some of the best memories I have. And our children should have that same opertunties as well. Don't punish them for a crime they didn't commit.
Angelheart



May 17th, 2008 - 11:44 PM 		Re: Excellent Story in the Pocahontas Times--Mothers Sue Over Stabbing Incident

That should have been spelled-opportunities