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Mark Billings

info@midamericakarting.com

IP: 69.29.68.228

Mar 17, 08 - 5:30 PM
A little help?

I am kicking around the ideal about buy and car. But have a few questions I was hoping some one would help me with.

1. Who makes the best car/frame?
2. Has the technology change on the frames over the last 10 years?
3. Do frames wear out?
4. What to look for when looking at used cars?
5. Do you need a blue printed motor to run up front? How much extra H.P. from B.P. VS stock?
6. What are some of your guys racing budget for the year? How many races will you race with that budget?

Any other advice for someone wanted to get into midget racing would be appreciated.
Thanks, Mark
bobbyd


IP: 65.26.142.170

Mar 17th, 2008 - 8:51 PM
Re: A little help?

Car/chassis is more personal preference. Bailey, ERC, ART, Bishop, Canaday (Doemelt), Henchcraft (I'm sure I have forotten some) are all good cars. All have won races.

Technology hasn't changed in several years (neither has the sprint cars)

Frames normally do not wear out. You still need to look for cracks and check the torsion bar bushings for wear.

Make sure the frame is not bent from corner to corner. You can look at a car and see if it has been taken care of and maintained. You will want a car with spare parts, extra tires/wheels, shocks, maybe some engine parts, rod ends and radius rods. If you buy a car local to where you will race, you will have the previous owner to help with chassis set ups and speed up your learning curve.

You do not need a built engine to run up front. Chassis setup and driver skill goes a long way in these cars. A built engine can have as much as 25 hp more than a stock engine.

You will need $ 25 per person for pit passes. Your alcohol engine will burn 6 to 8 gal of alcohol per nite and your gas engine will burn 2 to 3 gal per nite. You will need to change the oil in an alcohol engine a min of every 2 nites of racing and a gas engine about every 3 to 4 races. If you buy 6 new tires at the start of the season ($ 115 LR and $ 140 RR) you won't need another tire the rest of the season (18 to 20 race dates). You should get 2 full seasons on an engine overhaul. Some guys have gotten 3. I try and keep our races within a 90 mile radius of KC. We pay $ 50 to start the feature event. We try and pay $ 300 to win, $ 210 for 2nd, $ 185 for 3rd and continue to pay down well. We pay $ 35 tow money if you hot lap but break and can't run the rest of the evening. At our 2007 year end banquet we gave out over $ 4500 in point fund money and prizes.
We are the least expensive way to go fast. We are
1 1/2 seconds a lap faster than the modifieds or dirt late models. We hold our own against the sprint cars and midgets on a 1/4 mile track.

You can call me 913-522-5378 and I'll try and answer any other questions you have.
OMMS


IP: 207.119.108.78

Mar 18th, 2008 - 2:30 PM
Re: A little help?

Mark,

You asked about MOLS cars vs Midgets in another topic.

I would definately reccomend purchasing an MOLS legal car for several reasons.

1) Price/Availability...The 1200 cars run about 60% of the price used vs similar midget equipment. Primarily this is because a chain and sprocket is much more economical than a Q/C rear end and driveline. Engines are also MUCH cheaper to purchase and maintain.

The 1200 car that won the OMMS Championship last year is for sale as a roller so cheap that it could be made race ready for under $4500.

2) Ease of maintenance... A bike shop can provide most of what you need for engine/driveline maintenance whereas midget stuff is much more specific and hard to come by.
You can also start and tune an MOLS car in your garage by yourself. Midgets HAVE to be pushstarted which requires another vehicle, person, and lots of room.

3) Location, location, location...As Bob said most of his races are within 90 miles of KC and most of ours are within the confines of central MO. A regular midget requires LOTS of travel to race with other series.

4) People....The MOLS has been around a LONG time and many of it's members have as well. They have so much knowledge and experience, as well as inventory, that there is nothing they can't help a rookie out with. And from what I have seen, they LOVE to help their competitors out whenever needed.

If I were to sell my full midget I would IMMEDIATELY purchase a 1200cc car for the very reasons listed above.


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